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We are on the record

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at the beginning of media, number one, volume one.

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The is the testimony of Elizabeth Holmes, going on the record

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in San Francisco, California, nine o'clock a.m. on July 11th, 2017.

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Ms. Holmes, please raise your right hand.

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Swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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This is an investigation of Theranos Inc. SF

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to determine whether there have been violations

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for certain provisions of Federal Security laws.

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Any reason why you can't give full, complete

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and truthful testimony today?

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Can you say the company name?

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-Theranos. -I thought it was Therah-nos.

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No, Theranos. It's a mix between "therapy" and "diagnosis".

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Why not Theranosis?

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Because the name is Theranos.

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Actually, can we cut that part? About the name?

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So, currently, we have 500 employees. We are valued at nine billion dollars.

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Wow.

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We offer 200 of the most commonly ordered blood tests. And the best part is...

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"We don't use a syringe for any of it." Then you go on to say,

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"We can run 70 tests on a single drop of blood."

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Would you characterize those claims as truthful?

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Okay. Some rapid-fire questions.

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We call them Makers Minute.

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So, you are America's youngest female self-made billionaire.

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That's pretty cool.

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Yes.

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If you are what you eat, what are you?

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Green juice.

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Favorite place to visit.

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Uh, my office.

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Best word to describe you.

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Mission-oriented.

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Oh, you don't have to finish. You can stop if you wanna stop.

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Hey, hey, hey, hey. You don't cross the track till the last runner's done.

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All right?

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Why is she still running?

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Go, Elizabeth! You're doing great!

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Why does she run so weird?

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A health-care pioneer is being compared to visionaries

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like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.

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A revolutionary company that threatens to change healthcare,

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the same way Amazon changed retail. Or Apple, yes, changed the cellphone.

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- It could be that big. - You've got

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this really smart female CEO,

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who's gonna do a wonderful thing for the world.

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You want it to work, we all want that to work.

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Not only did they fool the investors,

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they fooled the media, they fooled patients,

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they fooled doctors.

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It was a medical fraud.

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This disregard for patients' lives was unconscionable.

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They hurt people. This company hurt people.

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Um...

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Can you help me? My wallet has been stolen.

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I'm not listening to this.

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Dude, why does your music blow so hard?

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Do you wanna walk home from school or do you want me to drive you?

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You're such a biatch.

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...to get things done

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Oh, rush and rush Until life's no fun

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This is a great song.

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All I really gotta do Is live and die

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But I'm in a hurry and don't know why

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Why is Dad home?

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Bankruptcy brought pink slips

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for 4,000 Enron workers...

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Chris. Chris. Kids are here.

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Are you gonna tell them?

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Your father lost his job.

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Everyone lost their jobs. Company's bankrupt. It's on TV.

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Many Enron employees will lose more than just their jobs...

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Who wants a snack?

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I don't want Snackwell's. Mom? Mom, I don't want Snackwell's.

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This is what we have.

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They lied to me...

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about everything. The whole company. It was a... fraud.

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You didn't know?

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Does this mean we're gonna have to move again?

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Not if your father asks Richard for help.

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I don't wanna talk about this in front of the kids.

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Lorraine said he would help. All you have to do is call.

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She's your friend. I'm not asking the husband of your friend for money.

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He's classless, he's a scam artist, he's...

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Well, I'm not gonna move again.

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I'm not asking Richard.

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So... Enron, huh? I saw that coming.

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Well, I wish I had as well.

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Well, on a lighter note, early decision at Stanford, huh?

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-Hmm? -You must be a legacy.

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-No, I'm a President Scholar. -We are so happy...

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It means that I'm the top ten percent of the accepted students. Yep.

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Okay.

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You're not shy about that.

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Well, why would I be?

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I don't know, President Scholar sounds like

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you're gonna be President someday.

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I don't wanna be President, I... I... I wanna be billionaire.

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Well... Okay.

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-Is this cheese? -It's Chevre.

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You know, it's not just about... the money. You have to have a purpose.

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She's going to study Biomedical Engineering.

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We come from a long line of doctors on my side of the family.

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First step is... Stanford. And then I'm gonna graduate.

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And I plan on inventing a product and start a company.

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Well, I may know a little something about that.

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Richard's company has hundreds of medical patents.

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- Mm-hmm. - He could give you some advice.

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But don't you just file patents so companies have to pay you off? Right?

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No. No, that is not what Richard does at all.

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I wouldn't put it that way.

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The medical training company that I started

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sold for over 50 million dollars.

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But I get the feeling you think you're smarter than me.

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Oh...

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Would anyone like to see the upstairs re-model before dinner?

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Yes.

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One taker. Anybody else?

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Chris, maybe this is a good time for you to talk to Richard?

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Yes. Richard, can we go in the other room?

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How bad is it?

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Well... Well, it's fine, it's... it's gonna be fine.

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Lorraine says you need help with your house.

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Richard, I'm... I'm gonna wait till the kids leave to keep talking.

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Yes. Come on, kids. Let's go.

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I want you to see this wainscoting.

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We haven't sold our old house. You can stay there.

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I don't mean to put you on the spot. I could help.

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Thank you. Yes.

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Dad?

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Oh...

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I didn't see you.

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Don't take Richard's money. We don't need him. Dad?

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You remember this?

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You invented a time machine.

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I was seven.

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That's stupid.

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And look at this.

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You wrote me a letter. Look.

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"Dear Dad, what I really want out of life

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is to discover something new.

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Something mankind didn't know it was possible to do..."

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I'm sorry... I'm sorry...

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I'm sorry.

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So, we just need to do some blood work for the physical.

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-Where you going this summer? -Beijing.

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She's going to need to lie down. Blood makes her faint.

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-She gets it from me. -No, it doesn't. I'm fine.

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Here, eat these cookies and I'll be right back to draw your blood.

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You need to touch up your roots. You look better blonde.

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-Hey, Mom? -Yeah?

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I want you to know that...

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I'm considering becoming sexually active this summer.

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What?

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Is there a boy you know going on the Beijing trip?

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I haven't picked anybody out. But I... I wanna do it

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before I go to college and I wanted you to know.

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Are you gonna be careful?

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Obviously, I'll use condoms.

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No. I mean, yes, use condoms But...

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that's not what I was talking about. Um...

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Boys aren't always going to act like gentlemen.

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So, it is up to you to protect yourself...

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- as a woman... - Excuse me.

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Yep. Yes.

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You have to watch out. When you travel, a nice man

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could turn around and kidnap you and make you a sex slave and then...

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I just need your left arm.

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- I can't look at this. I'll be outside. - Mom, wait.

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- I'll be outside. - Wait.

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It's okay, you got this.

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And you and Mr. Balwani were engaged in a romantic relationship?

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Yes.

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And after Mr. Balwani joined the company as President and COO,

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did you ever tell investors that you and Mr. Balwani

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had a romantic relationship at the time you were asking them

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to invest in Theranos?

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No.

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And when did you first get to know Mr. Sunny Balwani?

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No. No, truly. When are Josh and those guys coming?

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'Cause, like, I gotta know.

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I don't know, but, like, are they bringing beer?

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Oh, I hope they're bringing beer. Yeah, we're gonna drink.

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No, Josh is like... I think it's on. I re... No, it's all fun.

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- Oh, my God! - It's gonna be such a good time.

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- I'm gonna get drunk. - What are you wearing then?

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My, God. Speak English.

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-It's Friday. -Right?

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- The week's over. - Stop that.

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She's so weird.

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Yeah, I don't know what you're saying. I'm not good at this.

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You don't need the "Sh." It... It translates to,

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"You very impressive."

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So, you go from the noun straight to the degree adverb.

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Oh.

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Are you an administrator here?

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Why, because I'm old?

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Yes. It's a college program.

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I came because I wanted to learn Mandarin. China has just entered the WTO.

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It's going to be the manufacturing capital of the world.

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Do you have a job or something?

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No. I started a software company and sold it for 40 million dollars.

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You're not supposed to open the lid all the way. It's not going to cook.

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No, I can't watch this.

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Come with me and get some real food.

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-Come on. -I can't leave the dorm with you.

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Fine.

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Wait. Wait! Uh...

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Let me just... Let me grab my money belt.

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Are you a Muslim?

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I'm Hindu. That's why my family had to leave Pakistan and move to India.

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Then I got the fuck out of there and moved to California.

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Do you miss your home?

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I don't know what my home is. When we left Pakistan,

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we had to leave our house, we had to leave everything.

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And after that...

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I wanted to go to the States for college.

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This was in 1986. How old were you in '86?

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-Uh, I was two. -Jesus.

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Try some of my scorpion.

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-No, thank you. -It's crunchy.

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No way.

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-Go on. Take a bite. -I don't wanna take a bite.

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Do it.

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It's not funny.

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You can go.

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I want to stay here...

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till I know you're safe.

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-I can't. -You can't hear how that's wrong?

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You know what? You're not trying hard enough.

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It's not that hard.

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That's why I think I wanna focus on the biomedical industry.

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Because... I wanna help people... and I wanna be a billionaire.

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-Like Steve Jobs. -You know what you want.

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I do.

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Thank you.

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For what?

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Not laughing.

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My dad comes from an incredible family of inventors and businessmen.

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He just wants me to live up to my potential.

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What about your parents?

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My mother's in India.

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My dad died a couple of years ago.

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Oh...

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I'm so sorry. How?

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I don't want to talk about it. ...

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Would you like to dance?

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This doesn't feel right.

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-We can just... -Yeah.

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Sunset is beautiful.

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It's the air pollution.

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You know what this has... meant to me, yeah?

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This whole month has been...

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Yeah, but we don't have to say goodbye.

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Because I'm gonna be in Palo Alto in August.

258
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,787
And then we'll live in the same city.

259
00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:51,166
What time do you have to leave for India tomorrow?

260
00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:52,459
Early.

261
00:20:54,127 --> 00:20:55,921
My mother has arranged this whole dinner thing.

262
00:21:01,885 --> 00:21:03,136
Can I ask you something?

263
00:21:04,554 --> 00:21:05,931
How did your dad die?

264
00:21:06,431 --> 00:21:07,557
You never told me.

265
00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:11,853
He went to the hospital with chest pains.

266
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And the idiot doctor

267
00:21:15,232 --> 00:21:17,651
ordered a bunch of tests but they were the wrong tests.

268
00:21:19,069 --> 00:21:21,196
He said it was just stress and sent him home.

269
00:21:24,574 --> 00:21:26,285
And then that night, he died...

270
00:21:27,536 --> 00:21:28,787
of a heart attack.

271
00:21:32,457 --> 00:21:36,670
Completely fucking preventable and I think about it every single day!

272
00:21:48,348 --> 00:21:49,599
I don't know, I'm...

273
00:21:51,601 --> 00:21:53,228
I get angry sometimes.

274
00:21:57,774 --> 00:21:59,359
Give me your wallet.

275
00:22:12,581 --> 00:22:15,584
It's custom in China to...

276
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,337
burn the things that you'd want

277
00:22:18,503 --> 00:22:19,921
the dead to have in the afterlife.

278
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For your dad.

279
00:22:44,946 --> 00:22:47,032
I don't want to burn this fucking building down.

280
00:23:02,089 --> 00:23:03,298
I should get to bed.

281
00:23:07,803 --> 00:23:09,513
Have a good freshman year.

282
00:23:21,441 --> 00:23:23,193
Yeah.

283
00:23:26,655 --> 00:23:30,117
...Don't mind Just wanna rock you girl

284
00:23:31,618 --> 00:23:32,661
Yeah.

285
00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:34,871
Give it a whirl

286
00:23:35,038 --> 00:23:37,457
Oh, shit, your shower-caddy.

287
00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:40,293
It's okay. Don't worry.

288
00:23:41,795 --> 00:23:42,796
There it is.

289
00:23:43,922 --> 00:23:44,840
Girl

290
00:23:44,965 --> 00:23:46,299
Because it's beautiful.

291
00:23:46,383 --> 00:23:48,677
Microfluidics is beautiful? How?

292
00:23:48,885 --> 00:23:50,262
Microfluidics is...

293
00:23:51,388 --> 00:23:52,764
Okay, imagine printer ink.

294
00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:56,309
So, your printer has one base color to start

295
00:23:56,393 --> 00:23:58,520
and then it goes through, say, three different channels

296
00:23:58,645 --> 00:24:01,523
and that reaches three different destinations,

297
00:24:01,648 --> 00:24:05,777
and each of those has a different reactive that give you a different color.

298
00:24:05,986 --> 00:24:07,696
So, you want to make ink cartridges.

299
00:24:07,779 --> 00:24:08,697
No.

300
00:24:08,905 --> 00:24:12,367
I'm kidding. By the way, I'm sorry we didn't talk yesterday.

301
00:24:12,868 --> 00:24:14,703
I was moving into my new place.

302
00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:18,248
Hey, do you like beer?

303
00:24:19,541 --> 00:24:20,584
'Cause I really like it.

304
00:24:21,084 --> 00:24:24,588
Ah! So you like Microfluidics and beer.

305
00:24:25,755 --> 00:24:27,507
- Sunny. - Yeah?

306
00:24:29,676 --> 00:24:31,136
I really love it here.

307
00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:03,877
I'm not a software engineer, I'm a physician and a scientist.

308
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:09,716
But, I do think that technology can have an enormous impact

309
00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:11,343
on the health care industry.

310
00:25:11,426 --> 00:25:14,513
And I... I do think that we're just starting to understand

311
00:25:14,638 --> 00:25:18,225
the impact that technology can have on all parts of our life.

312
00:25:18,475 --> 00:25:19,351
Amazing.

313
00:25:19,726 --> 00:25:21,561
- So, you are a doctor? - Yes.

314
00:25:21,728 --> 00:25:24,064
And inventor, and investor.

315
00:25:24,314 --> 00:25:26,608
You've served on boards of companies.

316
00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:29,361
I mean, why are you also a professor?

317
00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:34,991
Because, honestly, Standford is the most exciting place to be right now.

318
00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:40,163
And it's 2002, so just imagine what tech is gonna be able to do in 2022,

319
00:25:40,330 --> 00:25:44,834
and it's gonna be up to you guys. What are they calling you these days?

320
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,920
The Millennials?

321
00:25:47,045 --> 00:25:50,006
You grew up with computers, you're not scared of what they can do,

322
00:25:50,173 --> 00:25:53,635
but you still have to remember, there's a lot that we don't know

323
00:25:53,718 --> 00:25:57,681
and you... you are the ones who are gonna find out.

324
00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:09,359
-Professor Robertson? -Oh, god, it's you.

325
00:26:09,442 --> 00:26:12,195
No, no, I can't let you in.

326
00:26:12,904 --> 00:26:15,490
It is a graduate level research group

327
00:26:15,657 --> 00:26:16,700
and you are a freshmen?

328
00:26:16,783 --> 00:26:18,201
-Right. I know. -So you're not ready.

329
00:26:18,827 --> 00:26:21,496
-I know, but I... I was thinking that... -Why do want to be in a graduate group?

330
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:25,125
Just be a freshman, just run around and... get drunk

331
00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:27,711
and break some hearts, and... sleep with your boyfriend.

332
00:26:27,794 --> 00:26:29,379
Well, I broke up with my boyfriend this morning

333
00:26:29,462 --> 00:26:31,381
-'cause he's too much of a distraction. -How did that go?

334
00:26:31,548 --> 00:26:32,799
-Pretty good. -Pretty good, huh?

335
00:26:32,924 --> 00:26:36,344
You need to change the flow rate, that's why your experiment's not working.

336
00:26:37,220 --> 00:26:39,431
-Wait, what? -You need to change the flow rate.

337
00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:42,809
How do you know what we're working on here?

338
00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:46,229
Because my TA Rakesh let me look at his notes.

339
00:26:46,354 --> 00:26:48,148
He's a Cubs fan, I bought him a hat.

340
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:51,568
Come on.

341
00:27:19,512 --> 00:27:20,764
It's over here.

342
00:27:22,098 --> 00:27:24,684
Where are we on the flow rate?

343
00:27:24,893 --> 00:27:27,145
-What's up, dude? -Hey, what's up?

344
00:27:27,854 --> 00:27:30,815
It's not the flow rate, I tried that. We think maybe changing

345
00:27:30,899 --> 00:27:32,525
the viscosity a little bit might...

346
00:27:32,692 --> 00:27:34,402
You... Um, you...

347
00:27:34,819 --> 00:27:38,531
you did, you sped up the flow rate but in order to...

348
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:42,577
to... to maintain the average linear velocity you... you need

349
00:27:42,702 --> 00:27:45,747
to also increase the dimension of the five outlet channels.

350
00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:52,295
-That's not true. I personally tried... -Yes, it is.

351
00:27:59,177 --> 00:28:00,220
Yes, it is.

352
00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:03,348
Mm-hmm.

353
00:28:04,182 --> 00:28:05,558
She's one of my freshmen.

354
00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:08,061
Fuck, you're a freshman.

355
00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:11,981
You're in.

356
00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:16,027
-Could you get her lab coat? -Nice.

357
00:28:22,575 --> 00:28:24,577
Channing said he would hear my ideas for products

358
00:28:24,661 --> 00:28:26,454
and we're working on such amazing technology.

359
00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:28,373
That professor is in love with you.

360
00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:29,999
No, he's not!

361
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,545
Whatever. Am I going to see you this summer?

362
00:28:34,879 --> 00:28:37,757
-See me? -Yeah. See you.

363
00:28:40,093 --> 00:28:41,177
Uh...

364
00:28:41,761 --> 00:28:43,555
I don't know. What are you up to?

365
00:28:44,973 --> 00:28:45,974
I'm very busy.

366
00:28:46,975 --> 00:28:49,269
I'm going to be driving around in my new Lamborghini.

367
00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:52,063
Oh, you got a Lamborghini?

368
00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:55,483
- Yes, the most expensive one. - Why?

369
00:28:55,984 --> 00:28:57,736
Because I can.

370
00:28:59,195 --> 00:29:01,072
Because no one thinks that you're a terrorist

371
00:29:01,239 --> 00:29:02,532
when you drive a Lamborghini.

372
00:29:02,866 --> 00:29:04,784
Motherfuckers.

373
00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:08,329
So, you wrote this up this summer?

374
00:29:08,705 --> 00:29:11,583
Yeah, I had a little too much downtime at my internship.

375
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:13,376
So, it's a... it's a patch.

376
00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:15,587
I see that.

377
00:29:16,045 --> 00:29:19,674
It's a wearable device that administers a drug,

378
00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:20,967
just like an antibiotic...

379
00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:23,052
directly into the patient's bloodstream

380
00:29:23,303 --> 00:29:25,180
while simultaneously monitoring

381
00:29:25,346 --> 00:29:26,931
whether the medication is working.

382
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,644
It's diagnosis and therapy at the same time.

383
00:29:31,936 --> 00:29:33,688
Huh. Yeah.

384
00:29:34,689 --> 00:29:35,857
I wanna start a company,

385
00:29:37,192 --> 00:29:38,777
and I'd like you to be a founding member.

386
00:29:39,152 --> 00:29:41,237
I don't wanna wait.

387
00:29:41,946 --> 00:29:43,364
David Filo and Jerry Yang

388
00:29:43,531 --> 00:29:47,243
started Yahoo while they were in your program, you must have invested.

389
00:29:48,244 --> 00:29:50,205
Actually, they asked me and I said, "No."

390
00:29:51,247 --> 00:29:52,582
I wish I could take that one back.

391
00:29:55,543 --> 00:29:58,004
You know what? I'm gonna put you in touch with a physician,

392
00:29:58,671 --> 00:30:02,383
talk about the viability of this. Do you know... Phyllis Gardner?

393
00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:20,777
Channing Robertson sent you?

394
00:30:21,069 --> 00:30:23,029
Yes, I'm in his graduate research group

395
00:30:23,571 --> 00:30:25,240
as a... a sophomore.

396
00:30:27,575 --> 00:30:29,702
Um... It's never gonna work.

397
00:30:29,911 --> 00:30:32,914
A patch is too small to store full doses

398
00:30:33,122 --> 00:30:35,208
of a single drug, let alone multiple drugs

399
00:30:35,416 --> 00:30:37,544
and the reagents needed for long-term testing.

400
00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:41,256
But then even if it could, it would have to provide long-term storage

401
00:30:41,756 --> 00:30:44,551
for those chemicals at body temperature.

402
00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:47,178
And let's just... l... let's put all that aside.

403
00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:51,182
Let's... let's say that you were able to work out a way to do any of that.

404
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:54,853
If you think that people want a patch

405
00:30:55,436 --> 00:30:56,938
to diagnose them

406
00:30:57,105 --> 00:31:00,358
and then put medicine directly into their skin,

407
00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:03,319
then you've never met a sick person before.

408
00:31:04,571 --> 00:31:08,992
People go to school for a very long time to understand how to diagnose patients.

409
00:31:09,325 --> 00:31:10,869
You can't get a diagnosis from a patch

410
00:31:11,035 --> 00:31:12,787
because human beings aren't machines.

411
00:31:13,162 --> 00:31:15,081
But doctors make mistakes.

412
00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:18,167
And this would be based on data, so...

413
00:31:18,293 --> 00:31:20,086
Well, data isn't everything.

414
00:31:20,378 --> 00:31:22,422
Um, people your age need to remember

415
00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:26,342
that machines make mistakes too, especially when humans are operating them.

416
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:28,511
-Yeah, but... -It's... it's fine.

417
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,346
It's, uh, nothing personal.

418
00:31:30,513 --> 00:31:32,265
You had an idea. It's not gonna work,

419
00:31:32,390 --> 00:31:34,475
so you just... you keep learning.

420
00:31:34,726 --> 00:31:35,685
Keep trying.

421
00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:40,732
I'm gonna be heading home and very nice to meet you.

422
00:31:43,943 --> 00:31:46,738
"Do or do not. There is no try."

423
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,156
What?

424
00:31:49,032 --> 00:31:51,492
That's Yoda from Star Wars.

425
00:31:53,077 --> 00:31:53,953
Oh.

426
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:00,668
Professor Gardner!

427
00:32:01,961 --> 00:32:02,921
Wait, wait!

428
00:32:03,338 --> 00:32:06,341
I just think that... I think that we can work together.

429
00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:08,635
-Work together? -Yeah.

430
00:32:08,801 --> 00:32:10,803
You're... you're a... what? Freshmen, sophomore?

431
00:32:11,054 --> 00:32:13,890
-I just started my sophomore year. -So you've had a couple of classes,

432
00:32:13,973 --> 00:32:16,351
maybe a seminar or two, and now you think you know enough

433
00:32:16,476 --> 00:32:17,477
to start a company?

434
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:20,229
I just thought as... as a woman, you...

435
00:32:20,396 --> 00:32:22,732
Well, as a woman, let me explain something to you.

436
00:32:22,857 --> 00:32:25,109
You don't get to skip any steps.

437
00:32:25,944 --> 00:32:27,487
You have to do the work.

438
00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:31,407
Your work, other people's work. You have to do so much work,

439
00:32:31,574 --> 00:32:33,785
that they have to admit that you did it. Nobody helped you.

440
00:32:33,868 --> 00:32:37,622
You have to take away all their excuses. And then if you get anything,

441
00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:41,376
anything wrong, they'll destroy you, and they'll be so happy to do it,

442
00:32:41,542 --> 00:32:43,419
so no, as a woman, I can't help you right now.

443
00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:45,088
And just...

444
00:32:45,755 --> 00:32:46,756
...one other thing.

445
00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:52,804
Don't ever quote Yoda to anybody ever again. Science is trying.

446
00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:54,889
That's all that it is.

447
00:32:55,473 --> 00:32:57,433
You only get to really do something

448
00:32:57,558 --> 00:32:59,644
when you've been trying for so long that doing

449
00:32:59,727 --> 00:33:02,855
doesn't even seem possible anymore. So, science is real.

450
00:33:02,939 --> 00:33:06,985
Yoda is a fictional green character who apparently knows everything

451
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:11,280
in the universe, except for syntax and grammar.

452
00:33:11,406 --> 00:33:14,951
So, I'm sorry, your idea's impossible, but that's the way the world works.

453
00:33:15,201 --> 00:33:19,914
The world works in certain ways until a great idea comes along

454
00:33:20,123 --> 00:33:22,166
and... and changes everything.

455
00:33:22,458 --> 00:33:24,752
Okay, I'm gonna... I'm gonna go, now.

456
00:33:24,919 --> 00:33:27,380
My husband is waiting for me with a glass of red wine

457
00:33:27,547 --> 00:33:31,217
and a foot massage, and the DVD of My Big Fat Greek Wedding

458
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:35,096
which came in the mail today, so I suggest you find a version

459
00:33:35,179 --> 00:33:36,973
of that for yourself.

460
00:33:37,098 --> 00:33:38,433
You're 19.

461
00:33:39,225 --> 00:33:41,519
You don't have to be anything else right now.

462
00:33:58,494 --> 00:33:59,746
Bee-bo-bee-bo-beep.

463
00:34:00,955 --> 00:34:03,291
What do we have here?

464
00:34:04,584 --> 00:34:07,545
Oh. Oh, wow, that's alive. Yep.

465
00:34:09,756 --> 00:34:12,175
You are gonna come up with a new thing.

466
00:34:14,135 --> 00:34:15,720
Should I just stop? What should I do?

467
00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:20,224
Well, you could, I don't know, like,

468
00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:23,352
try being a sophomore in college for a night.

469
00:34:23,811 --> 00:34:24,771
That might be fun.

470
00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:26,564
You like acapella?

471
00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:30,735
You ever heard "Don't Stop Believin'" in a 12-part harmony?

472
00:34:32,028 --> 00:34:33,112
It's fun.

473
00:34:41,996 --> 00:34:43,081
That's so funny!

474
00:34:47,668 --> 00:34:48,669
Hey!

475
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:52,757
How are you guys?

476
00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:56,344
Oh, my God, that's hilarious. Oh...

477
00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:58,805
Oh, my God, that's hilarious.

478
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,057
That's the best joke ever.

479
00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:04,143
That's so funny. I'm having so much fun!

480
00:35:04,268 --> 00:35:05,353
Whoo-hoo.

481
00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:07,146
Whoo-hoo!

482
00:35:07,688 --> 00:35:08,856
Whoo-hoo!

483
00:35:09,357 --> 00:35:10,608
Whoo!

484
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:21,035
Ms. Holmes? Ms. Holmes?

485
00:35:21,410 --> 00:35:22,745
Please answer the question.

486
00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:24,163
I...

487
00:35:25,164 --> 00:35:26,749
don't remember specifically.

488
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:28,960
You were the CEO.

489
00:35:29,836 --> 00:35:30,795
Yes.

490
00:35:31,671 --> 00:35:33,339
And you don't remember specifically?

491
00:35:33,422 --> 00:35:34,841
I... I don't... um...

492
00:35:36,175 --> 00:35:38,678
no, I don't recall details from years ago.

493
00:35:38,803 --> 00:35:40,054
I... I... I...

494
00:35:41,013 --> 00:35:42,056
I don't recall...

495
00:35:56,988 --> 00:35:58,364
Ms. Holmes.

496
00:36:01,909 --> 00:36:05,204
-Ms. Holmes, do you need a break? -No.

497
00:36:10,793 --> 00:36:13,337
What's wrong with her? Did something happen?

498
00:36:13,921 --> 00:36:17,049
At the party, I think a guy did something to her.

499
00:36:17,341 --> 00:36:19,969
I don't know the whole story, but she went to the police.

500
00:36:20,261 --> 00:36:22,763
- The police? - She said it was rape.

501
00:36:22,972 --> 00:36:24,098
Really?

502
00:36:25,057 --> 00:36:26,142
Do you believe her?

503
00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:28,686
I don't know. Let's go.

504
00:36:47,246 --> 00:36:48,247
Hello.

505
00:36:48,372 --> 00:36:49,999
Hey, where have you been?

506
00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:51,918
I tried calling you for a few days.

507
00:36:52,293 --> 00:36:53,377
I've been busy.

508
00:36:53,836 --> 00:36:57,173
I miss you. You know how much I miss you when I don't talk to you.

509
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,635
Do you know how weird that is that you would say that to me?

510
00:37:01,761 --> 00:37:02,845
I'm 19.

511
00:37:04,847 --> 00:37:06,098
I'm 19.

512
00:37:08,392 --> 00:37:11,020
You should talk to somebody your own age.

513
00:37:11,938 --> 00:37:13,147
That's what you want?

514
00:37:15,691 --> 00:37:16,651
Yeah.

515
00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:18,486
Yes.

516
00:37:20,947 --> 00:37:22,240
This is fucking weird.

517
00:37:25,576 --> 00:37:26,911
Don't call me again.

518
00:37:58,109 --> 00:38:00,736
Ms. Holmes. They're ready for you.

519
00:38:16,419 --> 00:38:17,753
What did they say?

520
00:38:18,337 --> 00:38:20,589
They aren't recommending any disciplinary action.

521
00:38:20,715 --> 00:38:21,632
I know that.

522
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,552
But what did they say?

523
00:38:26,012 --> 00:38:27,471
It's my word against his.

524
00:38:29,598 --> 00:38:30,891
They don't believe me.

525
00:38:33,602 --> 00:38:35,229
I can't get anyone to believe me.

526
00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:47,616
I c... I can't get this smell out. I think we should just throw it out.

527
00:38:49,368 --> 00:38:53,247
Oh, my God! Th... this is dangerous. This could hurt you!

528
00:38:53,456 --> 00:38:54,707
We should get rid of it.

529
00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:59,045
I need your help.

530
00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:02,381
Elizabeth.

531
00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:04,717
Get under it.

532
00:39:05,009 --> 00:39:06,010
Yeah. Come on.

533
00:39:06,260 --> 00:39:07,636
Oh, wait, wait, wait.

534
00:39:07,845 --> 00:39:09,013
Mom, I have to put it down,

535
00:39:09,096 --> 00:39:11,307
-I have to put it down. I have to. -All right, all right.

536
00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:13,142
Slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly. Okay.

537
00:39:15,644 --> 00:39:18,147
- I don't want to do this right now, I... - Elizabeth.

538
00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:19,523
No, just go back to the hotel.

539
00:39:19,607 --> 00:39:21,525
-I... leave me alone, I'm... -I believe you

540
00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:25,946
I believe you. I believe everything you said.

541
00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:36,374
But I... I didn't... you told me to be careful, and I didn't listen to you,

542
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:37,541
I was drinking.

543
00:39:38,709 --> 00:39:41,253
Men will... take...

544
00:39:42,671 --> 00:39:45,633
and... take from you,

545
00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:49,512
so you have to decide right now

546
00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:52,973
if you are going to let that stop you.

547
00:39:55,184 --> 00:39:56,644
-But how will... -You just put it away,

548
00:39:57,103 --> 00:39:58,813
and forget it.

549
00:39:59,688 --> 00:40:00,731
And...

550
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:04,276
then one day...

551
00:40:05,694 --> 00:40:07,655
one day, you'll just be fine again....

552
00:40:11,909 --> 00:40:14,120
Come on. This thing smells awful.

553
00:40:16,705 --> 00:40:18,749
-Okay. -Okay.

554
00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:22,002
And one, two,

555
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,796
three!

556
00:40:24,213 --> 00:40:25,673
Oh, God!

557
00:40:37,601 --> 00:40:38,894
I love you.

558
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:44,733
We should wash our hands.

559
00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:28,504
You're back.

560
00:42:28,879 --> 00:42:29,922
I'm back.

561
00:42:30,714 --> 00:42:31,632
It's a redesign.

562
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,302
It's a box the size of an iPod.

563
00:42:36,428 --> 00:42:39,515
And it doesn't administer medicine. It tests your blood.

564
00:42:40,808 --> 00:42:42,309
What if you could test your blood

565
00:42:43,018 --> 00:42:44,144
in your own home?

566
00:42:46,063 --> 00:42:47,982
And what if it's not a whole vial,

567
00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:50,401
but just a drop?

568
00:42:51,277 --> 00:42:52,278
It would always be with you.

569
00:42:54,947 --> 00:42:57,491
And it... it could keep you safe.

570
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,582
So, Channing wants us to begin the research phase as soon as possible.

571
00:43:46,832 --> 00:43:48,792
We're renting office space in East Palo Alto.

572
00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:51,962
But isn't that the part of the city they told you not to go to

573
00:43:52,046 --> 00:43:53,964
-during orientation? -Yeah, that's dangerous.

574
00:43:54,089 --> 00:43:56,175
-Yeah. -I got lost there during the move in,

575
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:58,552
when you sent me to... the Urban Outfitters.

576
00:43:58,636 --> 00:44:01,347
We can't afford anything else right now.

577
00:44:02,139 --> 00:44:04,183
And I wanted to ask you if...

578
00:44:04,850 --> 00:44:06,018
you would consider...

579
00:44:06,852 --> 00:44:09,730
investing my tuition money into the company.

580
00:44:11,565 --> 00:44:13,317
Well, how would we pay for your tuition?

581
00:44:13,442 --> 00:44:17,112
Well, you won't have to, because I'm... I'm going to drop out.

582
00:44:18,072 --> 00:44:19,990
-You're gonna do what? -No. No!

583
00:44:20,366 --> 00:44:22,660
Steve Jobs dropped out. Bill Gates dropped out.

584
00:44:22,951 --> 00:44:25,245
Michael Dell, Paul Allen. Elon Musk...

585
00:44:25,329 --> 00:44:27,206
-Who's Paul Allen? -He's the other Microsoft guy.

586
00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:29,541
I don't care. You're not dropping out of Stanford.

587
00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:31,126
Start a company after you graduate.

588
00:44:31,251 --> 00:44:33,379
No, I... I don't even go to class anymore anyway.

589
00:44:33,629 --> 00:44:34,797
Wait, you don't go to class?

590
00:44:36,548 --> 00:44:38,634
Elizabeth, is this about what happened?

591
00:44:38,759 --> 00:44:41,011
-Noel. -No. No.

592
00:44:53,482 --> 00:44:55,776
What does this thing even do? It...

593
00:44:57,152 --> 00:44:58,195
tests your blood?

594
00:44:58,362 --> 00:45:00,406
It's...

595
00:45:01,365 --> 00:45:04,535
Mom, you would never have to have a needle ever again.

596
00:45:17,464 --> 00:45:18,924
I don't understand you.

597
00:45:21,552 --> 00:45:22,761
I know.

598
00:45:26,515 --> 00:45:29,893
Guess what? Elizabeth Holmes dropped out of Stanford.

599
00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:32,604
And get this, she invented a medical device,

600
00:45:32,813 --> 00:45:34,189
some sort of blood testing thing.

601
00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:36,650
A professor from Stanford is helping her.

602
00:45:36,775 --> 00:45:38,402
They already raised a lot of money.

603
00:45:38,902 --> 00:45:41,029
-She didn't call for my advice. -What do you mean?

604
00:45:41,572 --> 00:45:44,950
She's going to be doing the exact same thing that I'm doing.

605
00:45:45,492 --> 00:45:46,785
She doesn't call me?

606
00:45:47,161 --> 00:45:50,122
She's a kid. She probably doesn't have our phone number.

607
00:45:50,914 --> 00:45:51,999
No.

608
00:45:53,709 --> 00:45:56,962
'Cause they all think they're better than us. That whole family.

609
00:45:57,713 --> 00:46:02,009
-Anyway, Mrs. Holmes said that... -Why do you call her Mrs. Holmes?

610
00:46:02,092 --> 00:46:03,343
She calls you Lorraine.

611
00:46:04,386 --> 00:46:06,138
Why do you call her Mrs. Holmes?

612
00:46:06,805 --> 00:46:08,265
I never thought about it.

613
00:46:19,651 --> 00:46:23,030
-She should have called me. -Don't make a big thing of it.

614
00:46:23,864 --> 00:46:25,032
I'm not.

615
00:46:27,326 --> 00:46:29,369
I just think she should have called me.

616
00:47:11,203 --> 00:47:12,204
What happened?

617
00:47:13,914 --> 00:47:15,249
Was someone shooting at you?

618
00:47:16,208 --> 00:47:17,125
No.

619
00:47:17,876 --> 00:47:19,044
It was a stray bullet.

620
00:47:19,878 --> 00:47:21,338
There was a fight, I think.

621
00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:24,591
Thank you for coming.

622
00:47:29,012 --> 00:47:30,430
Why did you call me?

623
00:47:31,557 --> 00:47:33,225
You told me never to talk to you again.

624
00:47:39,147 --> 00:47:40,274
I don't know.

625
00:47:40,941 --> 00:47:42,734
Yes, you do! Why am I here?

626
00:47:45,237 --> 00:47:46,697
Why am I here?

627
00:48:01,795 --> 00:48:03,964
You can't push me away again.

628
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:07,759
I'm going to protect you.

629
00:48:15,976 --> 00:48:18,270
I know. I know.

630
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,188
Do you ever recall telling anyone,

631
00:48:20,272 --> 00:48:22,399
your patients, your investors, your board,

632
00:48:22,983 --> 00:48:24,484
that in fact none of the technology

633
00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:26,403
you claimed to have invented was operational?

634
00:48:27,279 --> 00:48:29,698
And that the results they received were often inaccurate?

635
00:48:30,657 --> 00:48:32,784
Do you recall telling any of these people that your company

636
00:48:32,868 --> 00:48:35,454
was endangering their lives by giving them false information

637
00:48:35,537 --> 00:48:36,622
about their health?

638
00:48:40,751 --> 00:48:42,002
I knew that we made...

639
00:48:43,337 --> 00:48:44,713
so many mistakes,

640
00:48:44,838 --> 00:48:46,256
but we were...

641
00:48:47,174 --> 00:48:48,050
we were trying to...

642
00:48:48,175 --> 00:48:51,553
to take this forward, and at that time,

643
00:48:52,387 --> 00:48:53,263
we thought

644
00:48:53,805 --> 00:48:55,349
that we were doing the right thing.

